Subject	people recommend smics for many resons - i am not disputing
Posted by	ztunerz on May 11, 2007 at 12:06 AM
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In Reply To	IMHO It is a known fact that there are cooling problems posted by dswtflip4u on May 10, 2007 at 11:16 PM
Message	the cooling issue. All i'm saying is that the theory "majority of the cooling is done in the first 8 - 12 inches" might need to be reconsidered. ie if power production and consistency is the primary concern, FMIC's (at least the one i list) is better than the smic's i listed. If that still doesn't make sense - if we could fix / overcome the cooling issues the FMIC is a better choice for power production. Harry Formerly yellowzxtt " If it doesn't make it faster, i don't care " Please visit www.ztuner.com to GO FASTER
Follow Ups	some data points on intercooler efficiency - ztunerz 22:56:45 05/10/07 ahh hah - kennys300zxtt 23:05:21 05/10/07 we still have the cooling problem on the Z in general - ztunerz 23:12:02 05/10/07 IMHO It is a known fact that there are cooling problems - dswtflip4u 23:16:00 05/10/07 people recommend smics for many resons - i am not disputing - ztunerz 00:06:22 05/11/07 nope (n/m) - aliaZ 23:43:20 05/10/07 figures - LOL (n/m) - ztunerz 00:16:31 05/11/07 Not. Even. Close. (n/m) - SeedyROM 00:09:48 05/11/07 figures - you too Seedy - LOL - ztunerz 00:17:43 05/11/07 Why do you need to change minds? - SeedyROM 02:52:31 05/11/07 Bah, grammar. Wouldn't let me delete to fix it ;) - SeedyROM 02:59:15 05/11/07 as soon as they're done cracking on neons, civics, eclipses, - LJZTT 00:47:07 05/11/07 did all three have the same turbo setup ? Different - The Devils Z 23:17:07 05/10/07 AH-HA, I think you hit the nail on the head, Devils (n/m) - FLEX 23:23:40 05/10/07 in a word - YES and the same injectors and tune - ztunerz 00:01:38 05/11/07 nope I wouldn't ... : ) and engine ..I meant "imagine" (n/m) - The Devils Z 08:21:43 05/11/07 its cool - this was a casual test - i was tuning cars - ztunerz 13:30:05 05/11/07 New or old version of Z1 IC's - MULTI-Z 00:02:16 05/11/07 new version - i doubt the 1 tube matters >>> - ztunerz 00:12:58 05/11/07 another thing is the loss of air getting to the radiator - Seb (specialty-Z) 08:46:34 05/11/07 i completely agree with that - i believe thats the ONLY - ztunerz 11:05:12 05/11/07 do other cars with Front Mounts have the same cooling issues (n/m) - The Devils Z 12:00:58 05/11/07 I don't - dogpile 12:26:14 05/11/07 some do and some don't >>> - ztunerz 13:18:55 05/11/07 ohh yeah and guess which FMIC made the most power - ztunerz 00:07:59 05/11/07 its good to know these things are getting tested.. - firstgearlaunch(Tampa) 00:21:21 05/11/07 How did you factor in ducting and/or actual exposed surface - YugoBernie (NoVA) 01:01:37 05/11/07 They all used a J spec noses and appropriate ducting - ztunerz 02:01:46 05/11/07 is it not trickier to cool smic's on a dyno than fmic's - LJZTT 01:06:14 05/11/07 blah - we had a HUGE fan blowing at each SMIC>> - ztunerz 02:07:02 05/11/07 that's cool, I wasnt interested in digging thru your post - LJZTT 14:30:34 05/11/07 IMHO, any and all temp testing on dynos is suspect - SeedyROM 02:55:28 05/11/07 interesting - jaku 02:01:37 05/11/07 Re: Do you have dynonumbers for the 3 cars,too? - chrisq 03:59:26 05/11/07 Id just like to add something, i was the test subject for - JayT 05:04:31 05/11/07 O and we only had 1 big fan - JayT 05:21:12 05/11/07 well its no wonder the SMIC's heat soaked (n/m) - aliaZ 08:00:11 05/11/07 or other reason (n/m) - Scotts94z32 10:11:54 05/11/07 my thoughts exactly... (n/m) - Waco300zx(DFW) 10:33:07 05/11/07 for the record - his car was not part of the test (n/m) - ztunerz 13:12:48 05/11/07 So one big fan pointing at the fmic and no fans - eriksu9 09:04:20 05/11/07 How can a comparo of SMICs wtih a FMIC - 240Z FeO2 10:12:58 05/11/07 ignore what he said - his car was NOT included in the test - ztunerz 13:12:08 05/11/07 That totally contradicts this post - SeedyROM 11:29:29 05/11/07 I did not quote his test - i did measure his temps too BUT - ztunerz 13:10:30 05/11/07 O, sorry Harry, thought you were. (n/m) - JayT 13:12:09 05/11/07 i just called the Dyno guy >> - ztunerz 13:25:08 05/11/07 That's some fan - SeedyROM 16:38:14 05/11/07 i did more cars besides yours - left yours out of the - ztunerz 10:43:35 05/11/07 during my dyno session last year - ZEngineer 08:25:51 05/11/07 If the thermal mass of the FMIC is the cause - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 11:54:55 05/11/07 95% surface area, 5% thermal mass - ZEngineer 12:21:03 05/11/07 Wait that doesn't add up... - CaliguyPurdue (redesigning) 13:24:30 05/11/07 Interesting info. - eriksu9 08:51:29 05/11/07 Here you go, I made sure they were balanced too. - whatsthegoodwørd 10:32:48 05/11/07 LMAO. Now Thats funny stuff!!!! - eriksu9 10:43:50 05/11/07 Harry....not sure if it was mentioned - Seb (specialty-Z) 09:16:20 05/11/07 seb - boost controllers were blitz dsb ids too - ztunerz 10:46:35 05/11/07 You should log the inlet/outlet temps after a few pulls. - Scotts94z32 10:10:56 05/11/07 probes were slid in just before the TB (n/m) - ztunerz 10:48:20 05/11/07 so that is the IC outlet, what about IC inlet? (n/m) - Scotts94z32 12:07:28 05/11/07 read my post again please (n/m) - ztunerz 13:07:10 05/11/07 i have a post where i did a 1st to 4th gear pull - ztunerz 11:02:06 05/11/07
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